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["Thomas D. Nadeau" <tnadeau@cisco.com>]

         Neil give me a break.  How do you figure that allowing an
operator to specify the interval at which to issue a ping or selecting
the LSPs on which to run the ping  "pushing all the problems towards
the operator."

         --Tom


>Tom see my earlier comments......but please stop pushing all the problems
>towards the operator to adddress, I think we have been given enough of these
>already ;-)
>
>Neil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas D. Nadeau [mailto:tnadeau@cisco.com]
> > Sent: 21 March 2002 16:17
> > To: Shahram Davari
> > Cc: 'George Swallow'; 'mpls@uu.net'
> > Subject: RE: Y.1711 requirements from IETF
> >
> >
> >
> >          Well, you MAY LSP ping all of those FECs if you wish and at
> > whatever rate you (i.e.: an operator) feels comfortable with. No one
> > is "strongly suggesting" that you do so at 1 packet per second.
> >
> >          --Tom
> >
> >
> > >But the same is true for MPLS-ping. You also need to ping
> > all those FECs.
> > >
> > >-Shahram
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: George Swallow [mailto:swallow@cisco.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:59 PM
> > > > To: Shahram Davari
> > > > Cc: 'Thomas D. Nadeau'; 'mpls@uu.net'; swallow@cisco.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Y.1711 requirements from IETF
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Where did you get this " ALL LSPs MUST" statement from? May
> > > > be you are
> > > > > reading a different Y.1711 than I have. All I can find are
> > > > the following
> > > > > statement:
> > > > >
> > > > > " ... It is strongly recommended that CV OAM packets be
> > > > generated on all LSPs
> > > > > (in order to detect all defects and potentially provide
> > > > protection against
> > > > > traffic leakage both in and out of LSPs). "
> > > >
> > > > I have one customer providing an IP VPN service who has >1500 PE
> > > > routers and probably well over a million LSPs.  Most of the LSPs
> > > > represent VPN connectivity can carry very little traffic.
> > > >
> > > > Would you "strongly recommend" that CV OAM packets be
> > generated on all
> > > > their LSPs at a rate of 1 per second?  Can you point to *any*
> > > > currently deployed network other than those using MPLS solely for
> > > > traffic engineering where this would be a good idea?  If
> > I'm carrying
> > > > the full internet routing table and using LDP downstream
> > unsolicited
> > > > should every router generate 108,000 (the current number
> > of routes) CV
> > > > OAM packets per second?
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you should revisit this "strongly recommended"
> > > > recommendation.  Perhaps you should provide for
> > generation of CV OAM
> > > > packets at rates other than 1  second.
> > > >
> > > > ...George
> > > >
> > > > ==================================================================
> > > > George Swallow       Cisco Systems                  (978) 497-8143
> > > >                      250 Apollo Drive
> > > >                      Chelmsford, Ma 01824
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
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> >



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