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[Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be]

i concur with you in addition, it will avoid for
these bodies to have to consider at some point in 
time an interworking function... 

- dimitri.

Bala Rajagopalan wrote:
> 
> In response to the comment on OIF tracking CR-LDP:
> 
> Life would be simplified for OIF and ITU-T if
> there were only a single standard signaling protocol.
> But because there are two IETF protocols, the rest of the
> world has to track the two (in addition to other
> non-IETF protocols).
> 
> Bala Rajagopalan
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Soumen Sarkar [mailto:soumen@sasken.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 3:27 AM
> > To: Loa Andersson; mpls@UU.NET
> > Subject: Re: initiating a discussion on mpls singaling protocols
> >
> >
> > Loa,
> > The response so far heavily indicated for RSVP-TE ( obviously
> > not because of the
> > merits of RSVP-TE over LDP-CR ). If one has to accept the
> > basic ground-rule, which is,
> > how many major players are pushing for RSVP-TE, one would
> > blindly vote for RSVP-TE.
> >         The more esoteric view, which is, single signaling
> > protocol would help
> > everyone to concentrate better in addressing unresolved
> > problems in MPLS, is also
> > appreciably reasonable to accept.
> > But looking from holistic perspective, is it not too
> > premature at this time to
> > conclude on this issue unilaterally (even if there is 3/4
> > majority in favour if it )
> > when this particular issue affects other standard bodies too
> > ? We know for sure, OIF
> > is still tracking LDP-CR as an alternative signaling protocol
> > for optical control
> > plane. Are we not pushing something without even considering
> > future implication of it
> > ? One might say, we are not stopping anyone to use LDP-CR as
> > such. But none would
> > disagree that making IETF take a stand itself is deterrant
> > enough and if not that
> > much, it is bound to create conflict of interest between IETF
> > and others.
> >   Are we really ready for this ? IETF traditionally has been
> > more a forum for vouching
> > technical solutions, not imposing it. Are we deviating from
> > that path with full
> > understanding ?
> > -best regards,
> > Soumen
> >
> > Loa Andersson wrote:
> >
> > > Heinrich,
> > >
> > > in my opinion the question is very clearly stated - is
> > there support for
> > > us (the ietf) to move the cr-ldp from standard track to
> > informational.
> > > We're "speaking for the ietf", it is more a matter of what we say ;)
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > As usual we are trying to reach a rough consensus. Everyone
> > (i.e. the
> > > mpls wg) can help create this consensus by answering the question
> > > above.
> > >
> > > Especially it will be helpful if you were involved in specifying the
> > > mpls protocols, have implemented or deployed (SP) those
> > protocols, and
> > > take the time to respond.
> > >
> > > I will be ready to give the first extensive tally mid this week.
> > > Currently the count is
> > > yes: 30 no: 7,
> > > if you normalize those e.g. by counting each company once it is
> > > yes: 21 no: 4
> > >
> > > Disclaimer: Given that I've managed to decipher the
> > sometimes cryptic
> > > mails correctly :o)
> > >
> > > /Loa
> > >
> > > Hummel Heinrich wrote:
> > >
> > > >  I think, the IETF can only speak for itself. There may
> > be other standardization
> > >
> > > >bodies (ITU-T, MPLS Forum) which may fill
> > > > the gap.
> > > >
> > > > Heinrich Hummel
> > > > Siemens AG
> > > >
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