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MPLSOAM BOF meeting draft minutes

  • From: Giles Heron <giles@packetexchange.net>
  • Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:19:18 +0000
  • CC: neil.2.harrison@bt.com, mpls@UU.NET
  • Organization: PacketExchange Ltd.

"Punj, Arun" wrote:
> 
> Giles,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Giles Heron [mailto:giles@packetexchange.net]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:18 AM
> > To: neil.2.harrison@bt.com
> > Cc: mpls@UU.NET
> > Subject: Re: MPLSOAM BOF meeting draft minutes
> >
> >
> > neil.2.harrison@bt.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Giles...you are so mysterious, some flesh on the bones of
> > your hints might
> > > help us all.  See below, regards Neil
> > >
> > > > I do not use customers as defect detectors.  As I stated
> > > > in another
> > > > post I have dedicated management servers for this.
> > > NH=> So what do they do then?
> >
> > that is largely proprietary.
> 
> Would you say that something which you consider important enough to go out
> and implement
> as a proprietary solution is not worth standardizing ?
> 
> In anycase, your logic is I already have it, so no one else needs it.
> Strange logic that.

that's not my logic at all.

We seem to have drifted off the original subject somewhat in any case,
but if you read my other posts I think you might even start to
understand that MPLS OAM will never be sufficient to manage PWs (since
it injects CV packets inside the PW endpoints) and so something
"proprietary" is required if you need to be sure that your PWs are up
and if your PW payload protocol provides no such indication itself.

Giles

> Arun
> 
> <--snipped-->

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